Today, Julia Steiner and Dave Sagan of Ratboys join Kallao to talk about the indie rock band’s latest album, Singin’ to an Empty Chair.
The band, XPN’s March 2026 Artist to Watch, chat about their trip to Wisconsin’s Driftless Area, where they worked on the record with producer Chris Walla, and they also reflect on their place as elder statesmen in Chicago’s indie music scene.