Sean Fennell: This album marks the first full length you put out since 2018. Was there ever any part of you that thought this might not happen?
Sam Keeler: No, I think it was pretty inevitable that we were going to make another one. I think it was just kind of disappointing, with the pandemic and stuff, that it took so long. And even though we record everything ourselves, it was hard to find inspiration when you are just kind of stuck at home, not doing anything, sitting around and playing video games and all that crap. So no, we never had any doubt that it was going to come together, it took a little longer than we had hoped.
SF: Was it a situation where you were writing throughout that gap, or did it kind of come in fits and starts?
SK: I feel like it came together quickly. I have a full time job aside from the music stuff because it’s tough to pay bills just doing music. We’ve received, like, some Spotify royalties, but for the most part, I need to work. I rearranged my work schedule so that I wasn’t working nights anymore, because it was really taking a lot out of me. So towards the end of the album coming together, I switched to a less demanding schedule. I’d say that ninety percent of the album came together in the last eight months or so before it was released. Once I tilted my life around doing the music stuff it came together very, very fast. Automatically, it was kind of just like breathing, it just kind of came out. It was long overdue.
SF: Taking into consideration that five-year gap, does this feel like a significant reinvention for what you do musically? Or does it kind of feel like just a progression of what you’re doing before?
SK: It feels more natural, like just honing the skills. You know, we went from recording in our bedrooms to having a proper studio set-up at our apartments. So if anything, we were just trying to make improvements on the mixing and engineering side of things, but the songwriting felt the same, just trying to make it better all the time and finding ways to make it sound better and more professional and more radio ready, you know?
SF: I just wanted to go back even further for a minute and talk a little bit about how the band came together in the first place back in 2017 around your first record?
SK: This whole thing came together when I was in college and studying audio engineering. We were allowed to book studio time as long as we were working on stuff that was relevant to school. So a friend of mine, who isn’t really involved in the project anymore and knew more about audio engineering than I did, would just have fun and try to make stuff that we could get full credit for recording. So the first album was entirely recorded under the guise of being a senior capstone project. I found a way to convince the head of the department that every time I made a fully finished song I could get school credit. So that’s kind of how it started.
It all felt really natural, because I always had this calling. I’ve been writing and recording songs since I had the ability, which was around 16. The genesis of the band was just finding any way to make songs that were recorded in a professional capacity. Once I had the skill set to do it myself, it was about taking myself out of that studio environment and building songs from the ground up at home. The first album was recorded in a proper studio, where my friend and I were kind of scrambling to figure out how to even use the facilities because we were learning, and then the second one was just trying to recreate a studio at home, doing a bedroom album and making it sound as good as possible. And then this one was like, okay, now we have a proper studio ourselves and I’ve spent enough time recording that I can actually make it sound good.